Hi everyone, this was the session held at Wendy and Rays. Name of the Rose was Ray’s choice, and 1917 was Becks – this was the “winners vote” selection made by Beck as the Gold Moscar winner for the previous year. Both very solid substantial films led to plenty of discussion.

Name of the Rose (1986)
This was one film which stuck from my child hood. It lost a lot of the intellectural rigour infused into the book by Umberto Eco. A pity as that was what drove brother William to be the type of guy he was, and made him stand for the things he stood for, despite the pressure of the church. Its quite central to the story. Without it, it is hard to fully understand Brother William. However the film does still carry the atmosphere and creepiness of the Abbey, the monks and the murders very well. The sense of mystery and wonder of the library is also there. It was a competent effort in film making and it still has its moments.
Quotes:
Ray: “I really liked Name of the Rose. I read the book. The force of reason versus the power of the church.“
Andy: “I enjoy a film that bashes the church“
Ray on Ron Perlman “stupido! stupido!“
Wendy: “They did have fun casting a lot of hideous looking monks!“
CJ: “William was in awe at the greatest collection of books in all Christendom… I was in awe at the great collection of weird looking people“
Andy: “Isn’t it now, Franciscan monk robes are designed by Gucci??“
Ray: “Sean Connery is one of the greatest actors“
Andy: “I liked it, but it’s a bit dated. Some of the camera work is a bit sloppy“
Wendy: “I thought it was great“
Renny: “I didn’t enjoy it so much…“
Renny: “What a weird library!“
Andy: “The same designer as Hogwarts“
Sylvia: “That was a very 1980s film. I didn’t get that from the book“
Andy on the rose: “What was the point?“
Sylvia on the sex scene: “It was gratuitous“
Scores:
Wendy 4.0
Ray 4.0
CJ 4.0
Sylvua 3.0
Andy 3.5
Beck: abstain (I didn’t enjoy the 10 minutes I watched)
Renny 3.0

1917 (2019)
I found this film fascinating as it was WW1 (not WW2) and I had not really seen that war depicted in such a dynamic and vivid way. The gold standard for me are films like Apocalypse Now, Private Ryan, Band of Brothers but those are Vietnam and WW2. It was refreshing to see WW1 done with the full glory of modern special effects and stylistic flair. The one-take concept was also interesting (it wasn’t really one-take but it was done in a way which seemed like it) and it led to a momentum and relentless pace which is distinctively modern in style. A very adroit effort worth a watch.
Quotes:
Beck: “It was all in one take. I enjoyed it!. Really engaging. It didn’t stop to dwell.“
Beck: “I was getting LoTR vibes… Sam and Frodo walking“
Beck: “The one who is very chatty… I thought he’s not gonna make it is he?“
Sylvia: “I wasn’t looking forward to seeing this film but it went very fast. But Benedict Cumberbatch – that took me right out of the film!“
Andy: “Why were the commanders all famous actors?“
Sylvia: “It was very well visualised. I don’t know if “enjoy” is the right word, but I respected the film.“
Beck: “I found it “vivid” in a gentle way. Quite quiet. not a war – right in your face. It was manageable. It allows you to absorb it, without overwhelming you.“
Renny: “I said early on, I don’t have a good feeling about this. But then I could just watch it. I knew one of them is gonna die“
Wendy: “I saw it a few years ago. I didn’t want to watch it again. It was so relentless. You don’t get a break in war. I got the message“
CJ: “I loved it. WW1 is not so often seen in modern films“
Ray: “It was ok. Not the best war movie I’ve ever seen“
Scores:
Beck 4.0
Andy 4.0
Sylvia 4.5
CJ 4.5
Ray 3.0
Wendy 3.0
Renny 4.5
Summary:
Thats all folks. Until next time,
CJ
















